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PostSubject: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:06 am

Hi guys,

want to confirm afew things...

Grind off the 'V' on the carriers right...
(the shiny bit)



Which one of these do you use?

Discs -- corolla D4D (255mm)
-- E10 / GXi (255mm)

255mm, 25mm thickness discs work, but the brake pad sits right on the edge of the disc.

Pads -- Levin
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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:49 pm

Don't use either of those discs. Run ST202 Celica carrier brackets for the caliper and you can retain the 275mm disc size. That's what I'm doing Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:14 pm

seriously?

the twinpots will bolt onto st202 carriers?

iv read the disc will catch bottom because its too big?

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:19 pm

miib14 wrote:
seriously?

the twinpots will bolt onto st202 carriers?

iv read the disc will catch bottom because its too big?

Yep, apparently so. I'm in the process of getting the carriers for mine now and am then going to order 2 brand new 275mm discs from Toyota. I'll let you know if it all lines up, but from what I've read, people have used ST202 carriers in the past and it worked perfectly. It's gotta be from a 3S-GE model though, not the 3S-FE. The 3S-GE version also uses 275mm discs, but they're 5 stud instead of 4.

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:33 pm

Really??
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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:36 pm

Yep Smile. So many people just skim the rotors down to about 258mm but with the Celica carriers you can get the most out of the twinpot upgrade by using the whopping 275mm discs. Heard of at least 5 people so far who have use the Celica carriers with the AE101 twinpots and 275mm AE101 discs.

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:38 pm

And you've got some brackets coming??
You'll have to upgrade your booster to run them
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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:41 pm

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And you've got some brackets coming??
You'll have to upgrade your booster to run them

Yeah, found some brackets. Just have to buy them. Hmm, figured as much. Guessing a standard Blacktop booster will do?

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:44 pm

Black or Silver their the same to be honest.
I'm on Trade me now looking Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:51 pm

Want to see this before I do my swap, which is this week lol

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:55 pm

Me to lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:47 am

one pic i did find (its on a starlet)

but as you can see, the caliper bolts up with a st202 carrier


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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:14 am

I went and bought my ST202 carrier brackets today. Might be able to get some pics up later Smile. I won't be doing the swap straight away as I'm probably going to do a whole bunch of things at one time, so am gathering all of the bits and pieces together. Bought a pair of lower control arms and a front swaybar at the same time Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:23 am

Nice

Cant wait to see pics bro.
Would help alot

Iv got the twinpots, going to get corolla tsport discs (275mm x 49mm x 29mm) and mr2 pads, just need to get st202 carriers now..
Hope to attempt it over the weekend

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:27 am

Awesome Smile. Just make sure that the discs you're getting have a 54mm centre hole. The AE101 twinpot 275mm discs use a 54mm centre hole (the same size as the normal single piston brakes), but Toyota changed to a 55mm centre hole on the AE111 275mm discs. So it's hugely important to make sure that the hole size is in fact 54mm.

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:30 am

Ok cool will check that out, hopefully it will be 54mm

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:39 am



Its a 55mm centre bore.. shouldnt make a big difference right?

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:47 am

^ Yes it'll make a huge difference. 1mm will cause loads of vibration as the disc won't be sitting on the hub nice and snug. You need 54mm bro.

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:04 am



Bro I think you got it wrong

From wherever I have read the e10 came with 55mm bore not 54mm. Starlets had a 54mm bore

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:09 am

I'm positive that the Corolla centre bore size is 54mm, or at least it is in the case of the JDM models. They changed to 55mm on the AE111, hence why I didn't buy the secondhand discs I got from the guy wrecking the AE111 SS BZ-G that I got the twinpot calipers off. Even had it confirmed by Toyota that the AE101 SS Levin/Trueno/Corolla used a 54mm centre bore.

Anyway, here's some photos I just took Cool. Both are of the twinpot calipers but the left side has the ST202 Celica carrier fitted and the right side has the AE101/AE111 Levin carrier fitted. As you can see, there's a difference in the height so you don't have to reduce your disc size, and the middle section has already been ground down from factory:








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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:12 am

Wow awesome pics bro
Is the distance between the two bolt holes same?

Like I said bro iv researched it and its 55mm lol
So whose right?

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:36 am

Kinda researched more and we kinda agree we are both right

55mm centre bore


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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:39 am

^ Haha yeah, after an intense conversation and plenty of research we can agree that it's 55mm, but it's still a grey area (meaning I'm not 100% convinced until I measure my own since there's so much conflicting information out there, lol).

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:45 am

Oh yeah until we actually check we have no idea if its 54 or 55.. but I hope its 55mm Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Levin SS Twinpots on Stock E10 Mac Hub   Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:50 am

are you removing you dust covers as a 275mm disc will not fit under them (ive tryed Very Happy )
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