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PostSubject: engine swap, will it fit!?   Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:53 pm

hey, new to this group.
i got a 1995 corolla sedan 1.6 csi

i want to swap the engine out, it's getting a bit worn. i want something with some go to it.  i have been lead to believe a sr20det engine will drop straight in, is this true? if anyone has any experience with this or know anything about it any information would be much appreciated Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:02 am

Hi welcome to the club, is the sr20det the 200 sx engine?

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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:13 am

thanks , glad i found this club

im not 100% sure. i think it comes out of a n14 i got told. dunno it its true.
im 17 just got my license. always been into cars since i was a kid. so im still learning about them myself cause got no one to teach me haha. lucky where i live i can drive turbo cars n what not. no restrictions

i got told a sr20det will drop straight in.

i looked online and i think the sr20det comes out with awd. im in need of fwd, but i seen that the trans of a sr20de(comes with fwd trans) fits a sr20det.

i'd want the sr20det. whatever the one is that fits.

if its the st20det 200sx your talking about that fits in then that must be the one the guy was refueling to that would fit in my corolla, dropping straight in.

if i have to re do the engine mounts then so be it.


i'd like to get a good knowledge base before doing anything. do you know what engines drop straight in with fwd trans if any ?
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:22 am

I got a 3sgte out of a celica gt4 (AWD) with an mr2 turbo box(RWD) and running in a FWD, I didn't build it myself but will help as much as i can

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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:28 am

that sounds like some crazy mechanic stuff haha. how does that power treat you been in a fwd?
do you know if it dropped in without having to re do mounts n what not.
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:27 am

welcome to the site

i have seen 1 sr20 ae101, unsure how hard it was to drop it in, the engine was out of an almera gti which was later turbo'd.

the 3sge / 3sgte is one of the easiest engines to drop into the ae101 for big power, i have done the swap using oem parts and iv been driving it for over 2 years..

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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:34 am

1 is enough to know it's possible haha.

what transmission goes with the 3sge / 3sgte thats not gunna give up its go in a few months ?

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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:36 am

on my 3sge, i have used the stock S54 gearbox, had no problems with it yet

witht the 3sgte, you can use the mr2 E153 gearbox

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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:43 am

whats the mr2 E153 out of? i'll have to address mine, it's a bit worn on 3rd. gotta rev mach it very precisely when shifting 4th to 3rd. starting to get a 2nd to 3rd as well. not good for going quick.

bought it, found out it had near no fluid in it.
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:51 am

Toyota mr2 gearbox is the E153

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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:55 am

ok, do you know of any effective things to do to the stock engine in the corolla.
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:58 am

what stock engine do you have?

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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:06 am

can't remember off the top of my head right now. the 1.6 i know that much. base model i think. got no ac or rpm gage if that helps.
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:07 am

if its the 1.6 then its either the 4afe or the 4age.. im guessing its the 4afe

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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:15 am

4afe
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http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/18/40/37/28/10532910.jpg
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:23 am

Don't bother with the SR20 honestly, in no way will it "drop straight in" except for physically being able to fit in the engine bay - mounts/driveshafts etc will all have to be custom. Easiest option is to go for the 20V 4AGE from an AE101/111 (will be able to re-use engine mounts, driveshafts are easy, common conversion so all issues can be sorted well in advance), if your heart is set on a 2.0L then as Ishaq said the 3SGE/TE is the better bet.

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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:18 pm

how much more am i going to get out of a 4AGE? i looking a a turbo set up. im thinking if im gunna bother doing a swap i should make it worth my while in go all out. with in reason.
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:10 pm

If you want to turbo and on a budget go down the 3sgte road as it is turbo and if you can find the gen 4 engine your looking at 280bhp stock.
As Ishaq has mentioned all toyota parts are used in the swap so no custom work except the wiring of course.
If you can deal with rewiring (big big headache) a 4age with Complete car looms is the way to go.
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:14 pm

do the 3sgte setup Wink

theres a lad here in ireland who done that and serious other modifications to the car and its throwing out 927bhp on a dyno

he changed the floorpan to make it 4wd and everything but if your looking to keep in fwd you can still get serious power out of a 3sgte with supporting mods Smile
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:24 pm

awd you mean? i might do a awd one day if i want more power. but ill stick to fwd for now. if i done a rwd set up it would be the sickest ae101 corolla. the 3sgte sounds good if it responds to mods Smile
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:32 pm

well his was a hatchback ae101 is yours saloon or hatch?
he used a celica st185 floorpan i think it was its on another fourm ill find you a link to the build thread Smile
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:34 pm

4 door sedan. the engine sit higher in the hatch
and cheers. def look that over Smile
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:34 pm

there you go Very Happy

http://www.toyotaownersclub-irl.com/t1092-3sgte-4wd-corolla
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:45 pm

thats mad as build. would love a ride in it to see how it feels.
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PostSubject: Re: engine swap, will it fit!?   Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:37 am

^ x2 Very Happy

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