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PostSubject: cold air box question   Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:08 am

hi guys,

im going to be relocating my battery to the boot of the car, so im going to have quite abit of room in the front..

so i thought about making a cold air box where the filter could sit like this





what material should i use to make it?

and then wrap all the pipes for air filter with this stuff

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10m-HEAT-REFLECTIVE-SHIELD-INSULATION-WRAP-TAPE-/350523081215?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item519ccdc1ff

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:15 am

I like the idea. Would sheet metal or aluminum be an option? I don't know much about metal work myself...

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:16 am

i want something that wont soak up heat, was thinking of 2 aluminium or stainless steel with heat insulator in between or something

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:34 pm

Maybe heat wrapping the box itself? Or... hm.

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:10 pm

What about a flow through box, where the air passes through and stays cold rather than heat up in the box?
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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:13 pm

Can you mount the filter in the wing then fun a feed pipe to the AFM?.

I mounted my filter there and run a flexible plastic pipee to join to charger intake

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Not a good picture to show it [will get better pics] there's a black plastic pipe behind battery.

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:41 pm

I know what you mean but a proper cold air box where the temp is always low would be better..
Then wrap all induction pipes with heat wrap/insulation, and finally remove the heating element off the throtyle body.

All this will help bring more power from engine..

Plus the battery in the boot will help with weight distribution

on another note your engine bay is awesone!! So clean

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:20 am

have a look at this website
http://www.ae101.drive.to/
it has all sorts of mods on it
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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:59 am

Not in a Corolla, but you get the idea:


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New alloy intake pipe + pod in sealed box (with rubber seals around the edges AND around the hole for the filter to stop rattles)


From the front with the headlight removed - note air comes up from behind the front bumper, could be assisted with a duct if required, but completely separate from engine bay air


With lid attached - could easily paint black for stealth look

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:05 am

cool link there bro

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:07 am

@ Hiro thats quite cool, but i dont want to get rid of my headlight... but yeah i will be doing something along those lines

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:07 am

miib14 wrote:
@ Hiro thats quite cool, but i dont want to get rid of my headlight... but yeah i will be doing something along those lines

The headlight goes back in, I just took it out to remove the snorkel and show what the inside of the box looked like.
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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:30 am

oh ok cool... then yeah will be making something very similar to that

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:00 am

was thinking something along these lines


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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:09 pm

two interesting vids to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCi2yo4UqPI&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAIxeQUSg-Q&feature=plcp
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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:02 pm

thanks for that

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:48 pm

Have a look at John's gze conversion - ae111sr.co.uk he's put battery in boot and used space for air box.

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:22 pm

Just seen it, looks awesome and soooo clean..
Do you know what he used to make it?
Also where did he get battery box from?

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:59 pm

John's car - ae111sr.co.uk







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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:34 am

hmm so your still willing to go for a mod that could give you little to no performance gains over the stock setup?
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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:51 am

yes i would,
the temperatures here are alot lower than in australia, and therefore the air going in to the cold air box would have to be lower compared to the guys in australia.

plus i will be removing the the coolant pipes from under the throttle body, the coolant going into the throttle will be the same temp as the rest of the coolant system which will be 86 C, so removing the pipes will make a great improvement as the air going through the throttle body will not be getting heated up.

Anything to help performance im willing to do.

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:04 am

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hmm so your still willing to go for a mod that could give you little to no performance gains over the stock setup?

Well ya'knowwwwww, he does have a 3SGE. Just because CAI's have differing performance gains and losses in the 4A engines, doesn't mean it wouldn't help Ishaq's. Besides, if he is relocating his battery, why not try it. It would probably be better than the SRI he has on there anyways.

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:08 am

miib14 wrote:
yes i would,
plus i will be removing the the coolant pipes from under the throttle body, the coolant going into the throttle will be the same temp as the rest of the coolant system which will be 86 C, so removing the pipes will make a great improvement as the air going through the throttle body will not be getting heated up.

Remember that the coolant flowing through the T/B also controls the cold-idle valve, if you remove the hoses you'll have to find a way to fool the ISCV/IAC to stop you constantly being on cold idle
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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:57 pm

yeah i understand that, will have to get a 2nd throttle body and fiddle about with that first lol

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PostSubject: Re: cold air box question   Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:24 am

any thoughts about using nos ishaq bro

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