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PostSubject: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:29 am

Hi guys,

anyone know exactly whats needed to turbo a 4age 20v?
what kind of power can they push?

Silvertop or Blacktop

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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:46 am

hey men depends how much money you wana spend to get how much power bro..one of my mates got a ae101 levin 4agze engine hes pushing out 413kw at the wheels think at 29psi but yeah hes engine cost just over 10grand men..
so yeah really depends bro..

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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:48 am

sorry men just lookd at face book you askd supercharged to 20v ay hahaha gave you wrong info bro..and na sorry woudnt know bro

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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:51 am

theres 2 threads lawrence, one for 4agte and one for 4agze

heres the 4agze one

http://www.ae101ownersclub.com/t959-4age-20v-to-4agze-whats-needed

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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:52 am

what kind of specs have you got on yours?

say i wanted to turbo a stock 4age 20v

what parts would i need?

what kind of power can i expect?

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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:50 am

@ishaaq
if your looking for some serious power then

you would need forged internals
low compression pistons
forged rods
good bearings
valve train, retainers and valve seats upgrade
a good turbo offcourse ! i would prefer a Toyota ct9 or ct12
bigger injectors
FMIC
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Piggyback or Standalone
Boost controller
External waste-gate if required

on the other hand you can use pistons, rods, injectors from 4agze as they are already designed for F.I

and if your planing to use it in low boost say man 9 psi then i would suggest u go for silvertop turbo iv seen one here ! though i would not recommend that ! but if u go for silvertop block with blacktop head the compression ratio will be low ! i presume somewhere near 9 ! because blacktop head have a very large combustion chamber and blacktop pistons have bigger dome to raise the compression ! on the other hand silvertop head has very small combustion chamber and pistons doesn't have dome like blacktop pistons ! so best combination to lower the compression is to put a blacktop head on a silvertop block ! and im sure this setup with stock internals can hold 7-9 psi of boost

use silvertop bottom as its a bit stronger then blacktop !

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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:02 pm

^^^^^nice info bro now i really need to come to ur city its has gold mine of parts alot cheaper to compared to here who nows if the 4age doesnt turn out as planned i might get the 2c turbo head............

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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:41 am

complete set up with black top wiring and 4agze wiring on a silver top available .

side feed injectors (550)cc
tdo 5 turbo with manifold and waste gate .
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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:43 am

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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:01 am

Standard Silvertop can run 7psi max due to compression ratio, you can lower compression ratio with 2mm head gasket [std is 1.2mm] or get low comp pistons or GZE pistons.
You will need manifold and turbo, inlet manifold [custom made] oil cooler and filter relocation kit, oil pipes to turbo, intercooler and pipework, piggyback or stand alone ECU.You should see 190-200bhp at 7psi.

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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:31 am

forgot oil cooler ! its even better to use oil cooler in 20v in N.A setup
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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:35 am

thanks for all the info

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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:17 pm

i was just thinking about that yesturday willl the 20v blacktop handle the same amount power of the 4agze ? ( with forged internals). i just like the fact that it 4 more valves then the Gze
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PostSubject: Re: 4age 20v to 4agte? whats needed?    Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:26 am

I'm running a Silvertop with Rotrex charger at 196bhp on 7psi with more to come [Thread in hatchback section]. Just got a Blacktop worked haed with Supertech valves, Toda springs, got Tomei Poncams to go in, just got to build it all.

A good Silvertop bottom end with high comp pistons and a worked Blacktop head should get near 200 bhp with stand alone ECU.

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